--- Log opened Fri Nov 11 00:00:30 2005 00:01 < mashi> #3: if you want to toggle a property on a different object with the button you can do like this: 00:01 < mashi> new ToolbarButton("a.gif", myWms, "Enabled") 00:01 < mashi> it will use reflection to get a "handle" to the Enabled (in the example) property of the myWms instance 00:01 < nht> Heh...may I ask why 1.3.2 rather than 1.3.3? Or was it just what was available when y'all started? 00:03 < noiv> So i can toggle property "Enabled" of my plugin for instance, like this? 00:04 < mashi> I think (but I don't remember exactly) 1.3.3 was an unstable alpha (new rendering code?) when we first started? dpatton? 00:04 < mashi> noiv: right 00:05 < mashi> that was the idea, but if you have a better one say so!! (a lot of things are a lot less than perfect in there ;) 00:06 < noiv> No no looks great! 00:06 < noiv> Ahh - mashi a please from vb.net, it is not case sensitive. Do not create public vars and properties with same Name Like 'Ison' and IsOn, please 00:06 < dpatton> nht: the starting point for the Punt codebase was back in August, as mentioned in the release notes, which was basically WW 1.3.2 plus a few things - we had to remove some of Chris's unstable code to get a stable starting point 00:06 < nht> Yah, I'm effectively forked right now too...there's no way our plugin works in a vanilla 1.3.3.1 with the hac...er...changes I've made to TerrainPath, Menus and such. 00:08 < dpatton> nht: maybe once we get to Punt 1.4.0 alpha2 or beta1 we can look at making it work in Punt, but we have some other things to deal with first :-) 00:08 < nht> dpatton: Understood. It would have been hairy to try to move forward with an unstable base. Do you guys like the new 1.3.3 features? 00:08 < mashi> noiv: thanks for the reminder (have tried to prefix m_ but I know it hasn't happened everywhere) 00:08 < nht> dpatton: Um...make what work? The new render engine? 00:09 >> SignOff: adamhill_work (Remote closed the connection) [#punt] 00:09 < dpatton> nht: your plugin 00:10 < nht> Oh...nah, no worries. Its internal still so I just release the whole kit and kaboodle as one exe. 00:10 < mashi> nht: your updates are in CVS or? (curious) 00:11 < nht> In the WW CVS? heck no...not a commiter. I send some of the menu stuff to chris and I'm working right now to backport some of the 1.4 iWidget stuff. 00:12 < nht> Need to start over as I tried to push some of the changes into the 1.3.3 structure and things are a bit too convoluted to do in the half-assed fashion I was doing it in. 00:13 < mashi> I haven't had time to test ww 1.3.3 much.. trying it now.. shapefiles is the big news? Can't find the File->Open SHP? 00:13 < nht> Haven't played with the shapefiles much. The other big thing is being able to set opacity on multiple image layers. Haven't played with that much either. 00:24 < noiv> yes, TransparentColor is impressive under some circumstances. 00:24 < noiv> mashi last thing. 00:25 < noiv> Cannot overide Quadtileset.Initialize Look here: 00:25 < noiv> Public Class wmsTranslucentQuadTileset 00:25 < noiv> Inherits QuadTileSet 00:25 < noiv> Public wms as noiv.wmsInterface.WMSLayer 00:25 < noiv> Public ourPlugin As noiv.wmsInterface.wmsInterfacePlugin 00:25 < noiv> 00:25 < noiv> Private dDrawArgs as DrawArgs 00:25 < noiv> Public Sub New(ByVal name As String, ByVal parentWorld As Punt.World, ByVal distanceAboveSurface As Double, ByVal north As Double, ByVal south As Double, ByVal west As Double, ByVal east As Double, ByVal terrainAccessor As Punt.Terrain.TerrainAccessor, ByVal imageAccessor As Punt.ImageAccessor) 00:25 < noiv> MyBase.New(name, parentWorld, distanceAboveSurface, north, south, west, east, terrainAccessor, imageAccessor) 00:25 < noiv> End Sub 00:25 < noiv> Public Overrides Sub Initialize(DrawArgs as drawArgs) 00:25 < noiv> MyBase.Initialize(drawArgs) 00:25 < noiv> ddrawArgs = DrawArgs 00:25 < noiv> End sub 00:27 < nht> Okay, later folks. Have a good night (or day). 00:27 >> SignOff: nht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 00:29 < dpatton> noiv: QuadTleSet is derived from RenderableObject, and Renderable Objects no longer had an Initialize method - move the relevat code in the Update() method 00:30 < noiv> Is it Called at the beginning? 00:33 < noiv> At the end no compile errors now, many thanks mashi and dPatton! 00:34 < noiv> Tommorrow I will do some testing, where can I upload the plugin ? :) 00:37 < dpatton> we don't have anywhere setup yet for "Punt-format plugins" to be uploaded/downloaded - for now, simplest thing is to put it into a ZIP file and add it to your personal webspace, or if you can't do that, I'm sure we can find at least a temporary home for it :-) 00:39 < noiv> Yes, ok, was rhetoric question. :) 00:40 >> SignOff: _dreaminofjeanni (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 00:40 >> #punt JOIN _dreaminofjeanni (i=adamhill@ppp-70-242-26-241.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 00:41 < noiv> And if you have some free time, please consider to extent the URL protocol with a parameter which gets routed into plugins. 00:41 < noiv> That will provides internet links with the ability to load any wms layer an click. 00:42 >> _dreaminofjeanni is now known as adamhill 00:43 < noiv> may be it looks like this punt://goto/lat=39.7953&lon=-86.2342&altitude=2011&plugin=wmsInterface&server=NASA_JPL&layer=daily_terra 00:43 < noiv> What do you think of? 00:44 < dpatton> I'll add it to the Punt to-do list :-) 00:45 < dpatton> but for now, time to go... 00:45 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 00:47 < noiv> Just for the records, here you can see it in action http://blog.exploreourplanet.net/index.php?Lat=&Lon=&Fil=water&Cat=0&Act=Search&page_id=2 00:47 < noiv> It is easy to add GE netlinks there, why not punt links ? 00:50 >> SignOff: noiv (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") [#punt] 02:04 >> SignOff: adamhill (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") [#punt] 02:12 >> #punt JOIN adamhill (i=adamhill@ppp-70-242-26-241.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 03:26 >> Bull_[UK] is now known as Bull[Zzz] 04:54 >> #punt JOIN TheBeanie (n=thebean@82-45-7-251.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) 04:54 >> SignOff: TheBean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 04:54 >> TheBeanie is now known as TheBean 05:33 * mashi yawns 05:37 >> #punt JOIN ShaunW_ (i=shaun@sluggo.nceas.ucsb.edu) 05:54 >> SignOff: ShaunW (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 06:45 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (i=adamhill@ppp-70-242-26-241.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 06:55 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 06:55 < mazop> morning all.. 06:56 * mazop reads logs.... 06:57 < mazop> hey mashi .... busy ? 06:57 < mazop> Log Message:More todo.... ;) 06:58 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 06:58 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 06:59 < mazop> Fixes: free look camera is default setting(bull) = good ;) 07:07 < dpatton_away> hi mazop :-) 07:07 < mazop> hi dave..... had some Inet-Probs yesterday.... 07:07 < mazop> so now reading the Fun-Logs..... 07:08 < dpatton_away> Can you take a look at the For Translators webpage and let me know if there are any corrections/changes/additions needed 07:08 < dpatton_away> http://punt.sourceforge.net/4translators.html 07:08 * mazop reading.. 07:08 < dpatton_away> I've sent Maurizio an email letting him know the info is available 07:13 < mazop> i hope maurizio can stand the stupid/pointless "argle-bargle" which came up ..... ;) ... he needs NLT for his projects... 07:14 < mazop> dave: translator-page=ok like it is imo 07:15 < mazop> ...and: have you found somone doing a right-to-left translation ? 07:17 < dpatton_away> Well, in this WW forum thread, NASA wishes "the Punt project the best of luck": http://forum.worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/index.php?showtopic=5050 07:17 < dpatton_away> No, no offers for right-to-left translation examples 07:18 < mazop> However, we do wish the Punt project the best of luck. 07:18 < mazop> Chris Maxwell 07:18 < mazop> Lead Developer (World Wind) 07:18 < mazop> NASA Learning Technolgies 07:18 < mazop> = good ;) 07:19 < mazop> so dave, if we need right-to-left i could try to enlist a chinese friend here..... ;) 07:24 < dpatton_away> ok, if you want - I only need a 'sample' to "play with" - take your PO file, and delete all but a few lines - I'd suggest leaving in a few of the strings from the Cache options page, and the entries for the main menu(File, Edit, View, etc), then using poEdit to replace your German translations for those items with Chinese 07:24 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 07:26 < mazop> ok, will try to manage something this weekend.....hopefully you get something for testing soon.. 07:38 < dpatton> I've got lots to do - no rush ;-) 07:42 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 07:47 >> SignOff: mazop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 08:02 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 08:38 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 08:38 >> #punt JOIN adamhill (i=adamhill@ppp-70-242-26-241.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 11:22 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 12:25 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 12:25 >> #punt JOIN adamhill (i=adamhill@ppp-70-242-26-241.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 14:29 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 14:48 >> SignOff: adamhill_work (Remote closed the connection) [#punt] 14:57 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7f@70.84.174.194) 15:23 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 15:46 >> Bull[Zzz] is now known as Bull_[UK] 16:05 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (i=adamhill@ppp-70-242-26-241.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 16:17 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 16:17 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 17:05 < mashi> finally weekend 17:14 < adamhill_work> hehe 17:15 < adamhill_work> so is the insurance project boring or just lots of long hours? 17:18 < mashi> Biztalk, SOA & Web services = slow. I dont like that. But there are many smart people there, including some Microsoft employees so it's fun too, but not as much fun as building world viewers ;) 17:19 < mashi> many smart people !? ok.. I'm not obviously not one of them ;) 17:20 < mashi> are you still in the oil business adamhill_work? 17:29 < adamhill_work> mashi: can you see my PMs? (grrr freenode + web client) 17:32 < mashi> adamhill_work: do you see my response? 17:34 < adamhill_work> no, you have to identify on Freedonode now, so you need to register your nick 17:35 < adamhill_work> and IDENTIFY 17:38 < mashi> thanks adamhill_work, done 17:58 < dpatton> In 1 hour there will be a discussion in #punt-dev regarding some issues with using GNU gettext in Punt. 17:58 < dpatton> This will include adding support for providing translations for Plugins and Addons. 17:58 < dpatton> Everyone is welcome to attend :-) 18:00 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 18:00 < ShockFire> weekend indeed 18:01 < ShockFire> and two weeks of 'vacation' (exam weeks actually, but at least I don't have to wake up early) 18:31 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 18:52 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@dsl-85-98.utaonline.at) 20:00 >> SignOff: adamhill_work (Remote closed the connection) [#punt] 21:10 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 21:54 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@dsl-85-98.utaonline.at) () 23:04 >> SignOff: adamhill_work (Remote closed the connection) [#punt] --- Log closed Sat Nov 12 00:00:54 2005