--- Log opened Fri Nov 18 00:00:50 2005
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07:13 < dpatton> Punt 1.4.0 alpha2 has been released: http://punt.sourceforge.net/releasenotes.html
07:16 < mazop> yea ! good job ;)
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07:35 < nosilleg> nice job.
07:35 * nosilleg frowns on punt://, tho.
07:35 < mazop> :-D
07:48 < nosilleg> mazop: was that your idea?
07:51 < mazop> its just necessary to make fe. 'clickable icons' working in punt as well as in WW. its nothing else than associating file-extensions with applications....
07:54 < mazop> and the associating of worldwind://goto or punt://goto can be configured anyway.....
08:06 < nosilleg> Bah....  It's a fracturing of the systems.  Why would anyone choose to use punt:// instead of worldwind:// ?  Either they don't know better or they specifically want to prevent WW from being used for that link.
08:07 < nosilleg> Having punt take control of worldwind:// if fine, but by creating another method your making people choose one or the other, not just for themselves, but for everyone else as well.
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08:11 < Nowak> how about using something more generic, like geo:// and then ww / punt hooking into it like ie / ff for http now
08:14 < mazop> nowak: you right imo
08:15 < mazop> nosilleg: would you agree with nowaks point too ?
08:18 < nosilleg> Nowak, mazop: that would require both punt AND WW to support it.  Until such a day worldwind:// should be considered the standard.  imo  :-)
08:18 < nosilleg> I'm off to watch Delta on Rove.  ttfn
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16:35 < dpatton> Nowak: hi - saw your earlier suggestion about "geo://"
16:35 < dpatton> neither worldwind:// nor punt:// have any actual status, other than that worldwind:// has been used longer
16:35 < dpatton> it's on out to-do list to research things, and see if there is already any work underway to have an 'official' URI protocol defined for such uses, and if not, to see what's involved in starting that process
16:39 < dpatton> Nowak: does you comment yesterday about "M" mean you are working on a Polish translation for Punt?
16:44 < adamhill_work> dpatoon: there is a lot of that (protocol for geo referencing) on the Wikipedia geo discussion and there is also GeoRSS, but it is mainly concerned about geocoding other things, not a 'placemark' unto itself
16:45 < adamhill_work> ideally we would specify some kind of coordinate system idenifier - EPSG numbers or use the long, but explicit Proj.4 parameters
16:46 < dpatton> well, the "goto" in the URI was just something Chris made up - he wanted 'functions' in the URI(I think that was the term he used)
16:47 < dpatton> I'd prefer to use an official standard, or help get a standard
16:54 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@dsl-153-57.utaonline.at)
16:55 < dpatton> hi Martin :-)
16:55 < mazop> hi dave
17:06 < dpatton> mazop: got your email - can you explain more about Punt starting up "off screen" - how often does it happen - are you using the official release, or a build you did yourself, etc
17:10 < mazop> dpatton: http://www.dynagis.net/punt-temp/punt-startup_ss.jpg
17:10 < mazop> thats what i mean. and yes, i get it with official release and also with builts...
17:11 < mazop> but maybe its just on my end like that....its a laptop running 'not offical grafic-drivers' .... hmmmm
17:13 < mazop> ...and it happens about 9 times out of 10 ;)
17:15 < mazop> ...i mean at 'first start' after booting .... 2nd run also 9 out of ten .... 3rd run mostly ok.....
17:17 < ShockFire> since worldwind:// is defined as a shell open command, I don't think you can tell it to work with multiple apps, though I could be wrong
17:18 < ShockFire> of course you could create a management app
17:29 < dpatton> mazop: when you start Punt, does the Splash screen appear centered on your desktop?
17:46 < mashi> hi!
17:51 < dpatton> mazop: just so you know, I'm going to be gone for most of the day, starting in about 1 hour
17:52 >> #punt JOIN mazo1 (n=mazop@dsl-239-156.utaonline.at)
17:52 < mazo1> sorry, was away...
17:52 < mazo1> splash is always centered
17:52 < mazo1> dave
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18:01 < mashi> I like the geo:// thing... but can't find the specification?
18:02 < mazo1> hi bjorn :)
18:02 < mashi> hi mazo1! :)
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18:03 < mashi> for transparent color range, would an ok way to specify it be color1 - color2  = {r1-r2, g1-g2, b1-b2} ?
18:04 < mashi> 2 colors where everything between for all 3 channels becomes transparent
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18:11 < mazop> hmmmmm.... asking me mashi ?
18:11 < mazop> :-D
18:12 < mashi> thanks for the task list mazop! ;)
18:12 < mashi> I'm asking everyone
18:12 < mazop> hopefully everything is 'understandable' (related to the list)
18:14 < mazop> related to 'transparent color range' i have no idea ;) .... i even do not know what the idea behind could be....
18:19 * mazop waiting for the first SF checkin to see if SF checkout works as good as on 'mashiharu'.....
18:22 < mashi> mazop: yes, I understand this: I screwed up :)
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18:47 < mashi> ok.. done helping patrick murris with his resize makes stars disappear problem
18:47 < mashi> did you know he codes in notepad?  I'm impressed
18:48 < mazop> notepad coding = hardcore coding....i am impressed too !!!! ;)
18:52 < Bull_[UK]> pat is awesome
19:13 < adamhill_work> oops, left for lunch before pressing enter :-) -- well you are in a sticky situation when you want to use URI's they are designed to point at a resource, period, so you end up (mis)using  the CGI query params (since it is RESTful  and WW locations are idempotent) OR you point at an xml doc (which could disappear/move later on)
19:14 < Nowak> notepad coding = stupid
19:14 < Nowak> :P
19:14 < adamhill_work> mashi: there is some syntax in the Mapserver map files for 'classifying' rasters that might work
19:15 < adamhill_work> tell patrick about SharpDevelop, mashi :)
19:16 < mashi> and chris! :)
19:16 < adamhill_work> i offered to be his Mono bitch :)
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23:31 * nosilleg returns for watching Delta on Rove.
23:32 < Bull_[UK]> the hottie?
23:32 < Bull_[UK]> live in the flesh?
23:33 < Bull_[UK]> ahh tv
23:41 < nosilleg> Bull_[UK]: Yeah, just on tv.  :-(
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