--- Log opened Sat Nov 26 00:00:04 2005
01:12 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away
01:32 >> #punt JOIN Bull[Zzz] (i=MeGA@82-33-118-207.cable.ubr05.stav.blueyonder.co.uk)
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06:56 >> adamhill is now known as _dreaminofjeanni
07:12 >> #punt PART dpatton (n=dpatton@S01060011950c1533.vc.shawcable.net) ()
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08:03 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv
08:17 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away
08:44 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@dsl-94-235.utaonline.at)
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14:03 >> Bull_[Zzz] is now known as Bull_[UK]
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16:02 >> #punt JOIN horizon (n=8259e0da@dd3004.kasserver.com)
16:02 < mazop> ok....worked ;)
16:02 < horizon> same nicknames :)
16:03 < Bull_[UK]> heh
16:03 < mazop> the webclient you use i dont want to make public.....so thats the reason for the msg
16:04 < mazop> its just a little tiny server which runs the irc:cgi ....
16:04 < mazop> :-D
16:04 < horizon> I saw that all of this is indexed by Google etc
16:05 < mazop> if the cgi:irc will get a rush i will simly cill it ;)
16:05 < mazop> dave should embed one webclient on punt-page i guess
16:06 < mazop> dpatton: here ? :-D
16:06 < horizon> How different will Punt be compared to ww?
16:06 < mazop> double as much devs right now ;)
16:06 < mazop> WW=1, Punt=2
16:06 < mazop> hehe
16:07 < mazop> you7 did the weather thing? horizon ?
16:07 < horizon> yes
16:08 < mazop> oh, i like it ;)
16:08 < Bull_[UK]> currently punt is 1.3.2 i believe
16:08 < horizon> thanks
16:08 < Bull_[UK]> yeah its excellent
16:09 < horizon> There is alot of room for user interaction improvements in World Wind
16:09 < mazop> whats about the thing, that you HAVE to start the plugin in WW to get zoom-funktions ??
16:09 < mazop> is it a .net2 thing ?
16:09 < horizon> it's a bug ww, it loses focus when running with .net 2.0
16:09 * Bull_[UK] had that problem ut it fixed itself
16:10 < mazop> bull: can you retrace that ?
16:10 < mazop> hmmm. not fixed here ;)
16:10 < Bull_[UK]> nope lol, been messing with lots of stuff
16:10 < horizon> starting ww maximized does help
16:11 < Bull_[UK]> could be that
16:11 < mazop> and because it loads by default the data...and that takes time.... i choose by loading ww if i load the .config or not ;)
16:12 < mazop> on the other hand is WW now so pretty with all the stars and the sphere, that there is nearly no reason for zooming ;)
16:14 < mazop> horizon: ever tryed to write a port for punt for your plugin ?
16:15 < horizon> no, i must say i didn't know much about Punt, but it shouldn't be too difficult.
16:15 < mazop> http://punt.sourceforge.net/plugins.html
16:17 * mazop loaded WeatherData in background and knows now, that its very normal that he freezes
16:21 < horizon> If the plugin is a bit more mature i'll port it to Punt. Most code is completely independent of world wind anyway.
16:24 < horizon> I guess not many people use Punt right now as it is still alpha
16:27 < horizon> Punt could however surpass WW in user friendlyness if you focus on it because i believe that's where WW lacks a bit in comparison to Google Earth.
16:28 < mashi> greetings horizon!
16:28 < horizon> hello
16:29 < horizon> I've looked at your samples btw for my plugin, it did help me because there is no documentation
16:29 * mashi goes to read about weatherdata and download
16:30 < mashi> very nice!
16:31 < horizon> have you installed it that fast?
16:33 < mashi> now I have! :)
16:33 < mazop> mashi=fast ;)
16:33 < horizon> download the weather data takes longer :)
16:33 < mazop> hehe
16:34 < mazop> 17:32:20) horizon: Punt could however surpass WW in user friendlyness if you focus on it because i believe that's where WW lacks a bit in comparison to Google Earth.
16:34 < mazop> =my words horizin ! :)
16:34 < mazop> i=o...sorry
16:36 < mashi> I agree.. where do we start? ;)
16:36 < mazop> mashi: think back some hours...hmmm... Layermanager ? ;)
16:36 < mashi> horizon: and we need more developers.... ;)
16:37 < horizon> i am thinking about the use of add-ons (not plugins) at the moment. It really is not easy. Google does a great job with their KML.
16:37 < horizon> it is almost like "drag and drop"
16:38 < mazop> i would be happy with a handling like with the plugins....simly load XML's, listed in /config-folder ..... and activate them so that they show up in LayerManager
16:39 < mazop> ....but i am not a coder ... so maybe:simple idea=hard to code ;)
16:43 < horizon> a .kmz file is a single zip file that contains the kml xml file and optional images, the user only has to open it to view the addition. Something similar could made.
16:44 < horizon> That also makes deleting it very easy.
16:47 * mazop agrees
16:48 < mashi> sounds good to me too
16:49 < mazop> oh, i saw: mashi, you just have -2 up there in the north. not so bad :-D
16:56 < mazop> horizon: right now i updated to ver.2 of your plugin....very nice to have a dialog now about downloading the data ..... and no more problems about zooming now.. ;)
16:59 < horizon> I think i'll try to make a prototype plugin for Punt to see if my add-ons suggestion works well. I'll keep you updated.
16:59 < mazop> fine :)
16:59 < horizon> going to eat now. Bye
17:00 < mazop> bye
17:00 >> SignOff: horizon ("CGI:IRC") [#punt]
17:15 < dpatton> hello :-)
17:17 < mazop> hi dave
17:18 < mazop> what do you think about the LM-thing/idea ?
17:19 < dpatton> I don't know what the "LM-thing/idea" is - I see you saying to mashi "think back some hours", but don't know what you are referring to
17:19 < mazop> (17:44:18) mazop: i would be happy with a handling like with the plugins....simly load XML's, listed in /config-folder ..... and activate them so that they show up in LayerManager
17:22 < dpatton> mazop: did you read my "Layer management, etc." email? ;-)
17:22 < mazop> yep...i did
17:22 < dpatton> it's just an extension of part of what I talked about in there
17:23 < mazop> but sounded very complicate to me ;) ... mybe because of my lacking english ;)
17:23 < dpatton> however, I don't think a new layer manager will be "the next thing" we work on - there are other things that need to be fixed/added first
17:24 < dpatton> mashi: here?
17:24 < mazop> i am not a coder. i just try to bring in some ideas....
17:25 < mazop> so you have to rank the priorities with the codings :-D
17:30 < dpatton> Well, if I have time today, there will be two new things added in Punt - Copy/Paste a "View"(like 'coordinates', but will include the image layers), and the ability to save Coordinates or View to a shortcut file(e.g. Desktop shortcut) that will start Punt with the Coordinates or View
17:30 < dpatton> It will make creating a "Punt bookmark" easy
17:31 < mazop> sounds good to me
17:36 >> #punt PART dpatton (n=dpatton@S01060011950c1533.vc.shawcable.net) ()
17:36 >> #punt JOIN dpatton (n=dpatton@S01060011950c1533.vc.shawcable.net)
17:38 * dpatton time for some food - I'll be back later...
17:38 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away
18:50 < mazop> dabe: http://www.skiworldcup.org/load/reports/racing_areas/ca_lakelouise/01.html
18:50 < mazop> ...how will the canadians do ? :-D
18:50 < mazop> dave: ...
18:50 < mazop> sorry..
19:03 < dpatton_away> yes?
19:03 < mazop> downhill wortcup ? today --> not interested in ?
19:04 < mazop> i thought you are as crazy on skiing like we....
19:07 < dpatton_away> didn't know it was on - not realy interested - going outside to work on my truck :-)
19:19 >> #punt JOIN ShockFire (i=ShockFir@d80206.ktwaalre.nl)
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21:27 >> _dreaminofjeanni is now known as adamhill
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21:54 >> #punt JOIN piotr`rugby (n=Jean_FIL@AOrleans-152-1-50-69.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr)
21:54 < piotr`rugby> hi
21:54 < dpatton> hello :-)
21:55 < dpatton> I was just wondering if the For Translators webpage gave you all the information you needed, or if it needs improvements?
21:56 < piotr`rugby> http://punt.sourceforge.net/4translators.html <- you mean this one ? well for the time being yes :)
21:56 < piotr`rugby> I have 91 strings left to translate
21:57 >> piotr`rugby is now known as piotr`
21:57 < dpatton> "for the time being"? You mean you will need some more information 'later on'?
21:58 < piotr`> well I don't know yet, I can tell you for sure once the translation is over and I submit the pofile
21:59 < piotr`> but there should not be any major difficulties
21:59 < dpatton> ok - how is the translations going - any questions, about poEdit, or anything else?
22:00 < piotr`> hm no
22:00 < dpatton> ok, good :-)
22:00 < dpatton> do you have an estimate of the amount of time you have spent on the translation?
22:01 < piotr`> roughly one day
22:01 < dpatton> well, thanks for doing it! :-)
22:01 < piotr`> (I translated some pieces when I had the time, and I began the next day you asked me if I was interested)
22:01 < piotr`> hehe
22:01 < piotr`> began on the next day (?)
22:02 < piotr`> gn my English is crumbling to dust
22:02 < dpatton> your translation is "real French"?
22:02 < piotr`> French from metropolitan France actually
22:02 < dpatton> Maybe after you are finished, I'll try and get someone to do French(Canadian)
22:02 < piotr`> yes
22:03 < piotr`> but as far as I can tell there should not be too many differences
22:03 < dpatton> Oh, and I'll also need to know your name, to add to the Punt Credits :-)
22:04 < piotr`> Pierre Joliveau
22:05 < piotr`> perhaps you should know that some translated strings are longer than the English ones
22:05 < dpatton> bonjour Pierre ;-)
22:06 < piotr`> \o/
22:06 >> #punt JOIN nosilleg (n=nosilleg@222-152-188-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz)
22:06 < dpatton> It's Ok if translated strings are longer - I planned for that, and can always adjust the user interface if required, but it's not likely that they will be longer than some of the German strings
22:06 < piotr`> I will ask Gfx if he's okay to check the pofile for mistakes
22:07 < dpatton> nosilleg: hi
22:07 < piotr`> yes that's true :)
22:07 < nosilleg> hey dpatton
22:07 < dpatton> nosilleg: you were asking the other day something about "referencing the wiki", but you left before I answered
22:07 < piotr`> that's what I like with English : short, precise, concise, straight
22:08 < nosilleg> dpatton: yeah, sorry, I had to run....
22:09 < dpatton> piotr`: or, when you are finished with the PO file, I can make the DLL, then you can both check things within Punt...
22:09 < piotr`> ah that would be a good thing indeed
23:15 >> #punt PART nosilleg (n=nosilleg@222-152-188-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) ()
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