--- Log opened Wed Nov 30 00:00:12 2005 00:19 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 00:21 >> nhv__________ is now known as nhv 00:24 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 00:53 >> SignOff: adamhill_work ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [#punt] 02:28 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 02:33 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 02:36 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 03:10 >> Bull_[UK] is now known as Bull_[Zzz] 04:42 >> #punt JOIN piotr`graille (n=Jean_FIL@AOrleans-152-1-9-183.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) 04:42 >> SignOff: piotr`momir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 04:46 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 04:55 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 06:02 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 06:37 >> SignOff: mazop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 07:07 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 09:54 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 10:00 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 10:02 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 10:02 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 10:03 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 10:44 >> adamhill is now known as _dreaminwjeanni 10:48 >> _dreaminwjeanni is now known as adamhill 10:50 >> adamhill is now known as _dreaminwjeanni 11:04 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 11:04 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 11:40 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 12:02 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 12:25 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 12:45 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 12:45 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 13:12 < piotr`graille> hey guys, I had some problems running Punt & WWind, so I removed all my .net frameworks, reinstalled a clean 1.1 one, and now only WWind starts 13:12 < piotr`graille> punt doesn't 13:13 < piotr`graille> but at least now I have an arror message 13:13 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@dsl-235-160.utaonline.at) 13:13 < piotr`graille> http://pj.piotr.free.fr/wwind/punt-errmsg.png here it is 13:13 >> piotr`graille is now known as piotr` 14:20 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 14:20 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 14:35 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 14:52 >> SignOff: adamhill_work ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [#punt] 14:56 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 16:00 >> _dreaminwjeanni is now known as adamhill 16:03 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 16:03 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 16:09 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 16:11 < dpatton> piotr`: Hi. What version of WW did you install? 16:13 < mashi> piotr`: did you also remove Managed DirectX? 16:15 < dpatton> I thought DX was one of those things that can't be uninstalled? 16:15 < piotr`> dpatton : WWind 1.3.3.29687 16:15 < dpatton> the latest released version is 1.3.3.1 - where did you get your version? 16:16 * mazop waves to mashi & dave ;) 16:16 * dpatton waves to everyone :-) 16:16 < piotr`> dpatton : well that's what the version number of the about screen says 16:16 < piotr`> for the rest I don't know 16:17 < piotr`> but I did not get any alien or leaked wwind version =) 16:17 < piotr`> installer filename is World_Wind_1.3.3.1_Full.exe though 16:17 < dpatton> piotr`: OK, thanks 16:18 < dpatton> Silly WW people didn't bother to set the proper version number within the program 16:19 < dpatton> My first guess is that because WW upgrades the version of Managed DirectX on your PC, that is causing problems for Punt. 16:20 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 16:21 < dpatton> The room waves at nhv :-) 16:23 < mazop> (17:26:11) dpatton: Has anyone here who has World Wind 1.3.3.1 installed also run Punt? 16:23 < mazop> yes 16:23 < mazop> me 16:24 < dpatton> hmmm - so we have both Vic(on the Punt-general list) and piotr` who can't run Punt :-( 16:26 < mazop> i have both on two boxes running - XP and W2k 16:30 < piotr`> dpatton : I have a dualhead setup, do you think it can interfere with punt ? 16:31 < dpatton> piotr`: I don't think so 16:35 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 16:37 < mazop> nhv_ here ? 16:41 < nhv_> barely 16:41 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv 16:46 < dpatton> piotr`: when you try and run Punt.exe, is the "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Punt\1.4.0" directory created? 16:46 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 16:46 < piotr`> dpatton : nope :\ 16:47 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 16:47 < dpatton> nhv_: lots of problems with your connection these days? 16:47 < nhv_> yes 16:48 < nhv_> apologies for all the line noise it causes 16:48 < nhv_> my ISP is woking on it 16:48 < nhv_> working 16:49 < dpatton> ah, so your ISP is staffed by Chinese technicians? 16:52 < nhv_> lol 16:55 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv 16:56 < dpatton> piotr`: are you up for some testing, if I give you some 'other versions' of Punt to try? 16:56 < piotr`> sure 16:58 < dpatton> piotr`: ok - it will take a few minutes.... 17:00 * mashi waves at everyone 17:00 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 17:02 < mashi> dpatton: maybe include all required dlls? (managed dx) 17:02 < mashi> I guess I was wrong earlier.. no easy way to uninstall mdx 17:05 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 17:06 * mazop hmmmmm .... maybe no problems here because of installed SDK's ? 17:17 < dpatton> piotr`: Create a new empty directory, and download and unzip this file into it, then run Punt.exe from that directory: http://punt.sourceforge.net/files/temp/Step1.zip 17:18 < dpatton> piotr`: do you get a "Punt -1" messagebox? 17:21 < piotr`> er no 17:21 < piotr`> Process id=0xb24 (2852), Thread id=0xab8 (2744) 17:22 < dpatton> OK, then it's clearly a problem with .Net and/or DirectX 17:25 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 17:30 < dpatton> piotr`: can you try reinstalling DirectX: http://punt.sourceforge.net/releasenotes.html#3.1 17:30 < dpatton> not sure if it will do anything, because WW has upgraded MDX when it installed 17:37 < piotr`> actually when I want to reinstall dx nothing happens 17:39 < adamhill> old MDX is always left around when you install new versions 17:39 < dpatton> yes, that's what I thought - it sees that DX is already installed, so it doesn't do anything 17:39 < adamhill> it does check versions numbers 17:39 >> Bull_[Zzz] is now known as Bull_[UK] 17:40 < adamhill> (the MDX bits) 17:40 < dpatton> adamhillyou got any ideas how to troubleshoot piotr` s problem of Punt crashing? 17:40 < adamhill> there is cordbg :) but is a uber low level tool 17:42 < dpatton> adamhill: with a .Net program like Punt, do you know if using a .local file would apply to all DLLs referenced by Punt.exe(i.e. including the .Net and DX DLLs)? 17:42 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 17:42 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv 17:44 < adamhill> there is a search path heuristic for assemblies, I *think* it is - GAC, /assembly/* folder, , , local dir, 17:45 < adamhill> i gotta get back to the office 17:45 < adamhill> seeya in 30 17:45 < Bull_[UK]> hehe punt is learning the fun f dxhell 17:45 < Bull_[UK]> of* 17:48 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 17:56 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@dsl-235-160.utaonline.at) () 18:04 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 18:05 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 18:12 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv 18:20 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 18:38 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 18:39 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 18:40 < dpatton> piotr`: you here? 18:41 >> SignOff: nhv_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 18:44 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 18:44 < piotr`> dpatton yes 18:44 < dpatton> piotr`: try this - same steps as before: http://punt.sourceforge.net/files/temp/Step2.zip 18:45 < piotr`> okay 18:45 < piotr`> Punt -1 18:46 < dpatton> and now Punt runs? 18:46 < piotr`> yes \o/ 18:46 < dpatton> :-) 18:46 < dpatton> Start > Run > dxdiag > Save All Information, and then I'd like to get that saved file 18:47 < dpatton> Then, you can use that copy of Punt, select French, and take a look and see if there are any problems with your translation. 18:48 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 18:48 < piotr`> sure 18:48 < dpatton> Be aware though that you may see a few untranslated strings, because you have a copy of version 1.4.0beta1, not alpha2 18:48 < piotr`> ah crap 18:48 < piotr`> The following error(s) occurred: 18:48 < piotr`> Punt configuration directory 'C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur\Application Data\Punt\Config' could not be found. 18:49 < dpatton> http://punt.sourceforge.net/releasenotes.html#5.2 18:49 < dpatton> Or, you can point Punt at the WW directories 18:49 < piotr`> okay I'll do that 18:50 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 18:54 < piotr`> okay that works 18:54 < piotr`> and works fine 18:54 < piotr`> but now I've spotted a few corrections to make in the translation 18:59 < dpatton> piotr`: don't forget the dxdiag info ;-) 18:59 < piotr`> and indeed "Gestionnaire de couches d'imagerie" does bother me 18:59 < piotr`> ah yes 18:59 < piotr`> I'm uploading it at once 19:01 < piotr`> dpatton there you go http://pj.piotr.free.fr/DxDiag.txt 19:01 < piotr`> some bits are in French 19:02 < dpatton> please translate ;-) (just kidding!) 19:03 < piotr`> lol 19:03 * piotr` flees 19:08 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 19:09 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 19:11 < dpatton> piotr`: can you test something for me please - close Punt, rename Punt.exe.local to Punt.exe.temp, and tell me if Punt still runs? 19:12 < piotr`> it does 19:12 < piotr`> looks fine 19:12 < dpatton> ok, thanks 19:27 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 19:28 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 19:54 < dpatton> piotr`: I'll wait for any corrections to the PO file before I make your French translation available to the public 19:54 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 19:54 < piotr`> okay 19:54 < piotr`> you'll have them after I have my dinner ^^ 20:57 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 20:58 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv 21:08 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 21:09 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 21:09 >> nhv_ is now known as nhv 21:16 < piotr`> dpatton : http://pj.piotr.free.fr/wwind/fr-FR.Punt.po 21:16 < piotr`> should be good now 21:16 < piotr`> a few typos corrected 21:26 < dpatton> piotr`: I'm just heading out - is it OK if I make it publiclly available? 21:28 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 21:30 < piotr`> sure 22:29 >> #punt JOIN piotr`momir (n=Jean_FIL@AOrleans-152-1-45-155.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22:50 >> SignOff: piotr` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] --- Log closed Thu Dec 01 00:00:54 2005