--- Log opened Mon Dec 05 00:00:40 2005 00:51 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 01:56 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 02:18 >> Bull_[UK] is now known as Bull_[Zzz] 04:23 >> #punt JOIN nosilleg (n=nosilleg@222-152-188-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 04:38 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 04:38 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 05:31 >> #punt PART nosilleg (n=nosilleg@222-152-188-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) () 06:11 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 06:13 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 06:25 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 07:38 >> #punt JOIN adamhill (i=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-174.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 09:48 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 09:48 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 10:45 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 10:47 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 10:53 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 10:58 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 13:08 Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mazop 13:08 Netsplit over, joins: mazop 13:54 Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mazop 13:57 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 13:58 >> SignOff: mazop ("Leaving.") [#punt] 14:13 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 14:14 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 14:37 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 14:51 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 14:52 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 14:53 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 14:56 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 15:29 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@dsl-149-227.utaonline.at) 16:47 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 17:00 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 17:57 >> #punt JOIN piotr`kawa (n=Jean_FIL@AOrleans-152-1-63-208.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18:44 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 18:48 >> #punt JOIN piotr`PoP2T (n=Jean_FIL@AOrleans-152-1-28-25.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19:03 >> SignOff: piotr`kawa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 19:52 >> #punt JOIN maurizioSA (n=mdef@wbs-196-2-107-209.wbs.co.za) 19:53 < maurizioSA> are you around? 19:53 < mazop> hey maurizio ! 19:53 < mazop> got the mail ? 19:54 < maurizioSA> hi! yes I did. Thanks 19:55 < maurizioSA> I want to give it a try a little longer on my own. 19:55 < maurizioSA> at the end I am looking for a "final" solution 19:55 < mazop> ok, anyway.... i even do not know about how to do that with esri tolls ;) 19:56 < dpatton> maurizioSA: HI! 19:56 < mazop> tools.....i mean 19:56 < maurizioSA> but it is good to know that as a last resourt I can count on your help. 19:56 < maurizioSA> hi Dave. 19:57 < maurizioSA> I'm trying to get that translation organized ... but everyone is summer lazy! 19:57 < dpatton> maurizioSA: I have to leave in a few minutes, but.... How did the conference go? 19:58 < maurizioSA> well in words, less well in concrete results. 19:58 < mazop> maurizio: at least you could convert them to dgn/dxf/dwg .....'smooth' them in MicroStation or other CAD and then push them back into GIS ;) 19:58 < dpatton> maurizioSA: I have one more bit of code to add before it's finished, but I just added a new feature to Punt that should be a help to administrators in a school setting 19:59 < maurizioSA> I was very disappointed by the international orgs. They only care about their jobs. 19:59 < dpatton> :-( 20:00 < maurizioSA> I was asked for WW Botswana and WW Swaziland. I have permission for data and I can get all data I want. 20:01 < maurizioSA> These 2 countries have decided to implement an open data policy via MM 20:02 < dpatton> maurizioSA: if there are features you need in Punt, either that are in WW but not in Punt, or just new/different features, let us know so we can think about adding them 20:02 < maurizioSA> there is also Nigeria but ... it's too far away to follow up. 20:02 < dpatton> bye for now - I have to go.... 20:03 < maurizioSA> thanks. Ozi export to GE "hurts". 20:03 < maurizioSA> ciao 20:04 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 20:05 < maurizioSA> I can do it with MI ... but how to generate points permanently is a mistery to me 20:06 < mazop> hmmm...how to generate points permanently....explain 20:06 < maurizioSA> also MI only applies smoothing to lines, not areas .. 20:07 < mazop> MI ? 20:08 < maurizioSA> explanation: once I apply smoothing MI (MapInfo) does not really generate new points, just creates a new line. 20:08 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 20:09 < maurizioSA> ... so if I export the vector I am back to the original "edgy" vector 20:09 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 20:12 < mazop> sorry, i dont get it really i belive ;) ... you start with shp points or lines ?...i thougt with lines as you showed in the screenshot you showed in the mail. than you want to 'smooth' them ....and it works .... but than you cant store the 'smoothed' lines (which are sure defined by points) ? 20:12 < maurizioSA> in practice it is fake smoothing, just good for MI. The MI files is smooth as long as it stays in MI 20:15 < mazop> ok...thats a different to INGR than....if i do that in INGR stuff, i can define the result of al querys/changes/analythics/deforming/..... as a new feature-class (not nonly temp esri-formats)....and every feature-class can be exported as shp,dxf,spatialORACLE,......bla bla..... 20:16 < mazop> so waht you have on screen you can export as elements in many formats 20:16 < mazop> and i really think/thought that ESRI stuff can do that too... 20:17 < maurizioSA> I am sure that there must be a way to create a permanent curved line, maybe by generating new points along the curved segmants, I think it's just a matter of me being ignorant! 20:17 < mazop> ;) 20:18 < maurizioSA> I need to find someone who knows MI well enough to tell me where to look. 20:18 < adamhill_work> i am going to probably really beef up WW's WMS for work (querying maps and attributes) 20:19 < maurizioSA> .. and metadata? 20:20 < adamhill_work> what do you need to happen in WW with metadata? 20:20 < adamhill_work> *WMS metadata 20:21 < maurizioSA> i.e. where data originates from, date of creation, scale,etc. 20:22 < adamhill_work> would you like that displayed on the screen? rollover or right click for LM? 20:25 < maurizioSA> I am not sure, even a link to a metadata xml (ESRI type, MI, or whatever) which opens outside WW would be fine 20:30 >> #punt JOIN nhv_ (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 20:32 < maurizioSA> Check a bad sample (very messy) of an ESRI metadata file 20:32 < maurizioSA> http://www.madmappers.com/pub/ProcNatParks_Mar05.shp.xml 20:33 >> Bull_[Zzz] is now known as Bull_[UK] 20:35 < adamhill_work> well where/how would include this in the metadata for a WMS layer? (i have no clue how to do external links in a LAYER Metadata block) 20:36 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 20:38 < maurizioSA> actually the sample is the sample of a project but it is just to give an idea. 20:39 < maurizioSA> I have seen a sample set up of mapserver where the metadata file which is together with the shapefile by the same name can be queried. 20:40 < maurizioSA> so, tohether with a vector.shp there was a vector.shp.xml 20:41 < maurizioSA> which would was called up when querying that shapefile metadata 20:43 < maurizioSA> not explained very clearly. I must look for that sample set up. 20:44 < adamhill_work> yeah I would like to see it too (am about to dive into querying a map) 20:45 < maurizioSA> ArcGIS and other GIS sw generate metadata xml's by default 20:54 < maurizioSA> are you still around? 21:00 < maurizioSA> I must go now. Thanks. I will try a last time on my own. 21:00 < maurizioSA> ciao 21:00 < mazop> maurizio...--> PM 21:09 >> SignOff: nhv_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#punt] 21:26 >> #punt JOIN nosilleg (n=nosilleg@222-152-179-115.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 21:33 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@dsl-149-227.utaonline.at) () 21:40 >> #punt PART maurizioSA (n=mdef@wbs-196-2-107-209.wbs.co.za) () 22:55 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 23:37 >> SignOff: adamhill_work ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [#punt] --- Log closed Tue Dec 06 00:00:10 2005