--- Log opened Thu Jan 05 00:00:53 2006 00:02 >> SignOff: mashi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 00:36 >> SignOff: TylerM ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") [#punt] 01:29 >> SignOff: adamhill_work ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [#punt] 01:56 >> Bull_[UK] is now known as Bull_[Zzz] 02:28 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 02:49 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 03:05 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 03:05 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 03:22 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 03:40 >> #punt JOIN [2]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 03:48 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 03:48 >> [2]adamhill is now known as adamhill 03:56 >> SignOff: [1]adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 03:56 >> #punt JOIN [2]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 04:11 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 04:11 >> [2]adamhill is now known as adamhill 04:15 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 04:30 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 04:30 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 04:59 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 05:15 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 05:24 >> #punt JOIN adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 05:31 >> SignOff: [1]adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 05:32 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 05:41 >> #punt JOIN [2]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 05:49 >> SignOff: adamhill (Success) [#punt] 05:49 >> [2]adamhill is now known as adamhill 05:56 >> SignOff: [1]adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 06:28 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) 07:04 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 07:21 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 07:21 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 07:29 >> mashi__ is now known as mashi 08:11 < mazop> mashi here ? 08:11 < mazop> g'morning 09:18 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 09:33 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 09:33 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 11:47 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 12:02 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 12:02 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 13:02 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 13:19 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 13:19 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 15:21 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 16:09 < dpatton> mazop: my reference to an 11MB download for Punt being "too big" was referring to being too large a download for Punt users. 16:09 < dpatton> I'd like to see the "main" Punt download needed to get started be as small as possible, but, 16:09 < dpatton> there can also be larger downloads that package Punt together with data. 16:09 < dpatton> The "WW philosophy" seems to be 'package everything together to make sure users don't miss anything'. 16:09 < mazop> aha :-D 16:09 < dpatton> I think Punt should have one package like that, but offer each "thing" in it's own individual package, so users have choices 16:10 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 16:11 >> Bull_[Zzz] is now known as Bull_[UK 16:11 >> Bull_[UK is now known as Bull_[UK] 16:13 < Bull_[UK]> yup, I agree a small package would be nice 16:13 < mazop> maybe right, but i think there is a need for a 'one-step-access-package' .... also i dont think that a 11MB application is too big to download for users - otherwise there wouldn't be thousends of 57MB WW downloads/day ;) 16:14 < Bull_[UK]> full/lite 16:14 < dpatton> full/minimum/additional components 16:14 < dpatton> main thing is to have choices for the users 16:15 < mazop> i agree with that !! 16:15 < Bull_[UK]> I remember getting ww to under 1.44mb 16:16 < Bull_[UK]> placenames is the killer in ww iirc 16:17 < mazop> i think "punt minimum" will be less than 1 MB ;) 16:18 < Bull_[UK]> :) 16:18 < dpatton> Lots of people who want to try Punt only will need "the minimum install", because they want to use their existing WW data with Punt - for example, that's what's going to happen with the Japanese users, now that we are getting a Japanese translation 16:19 * dpatton be back later.... 16:19 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 16:19 < mazop> but than they will not get new icons ;) 16:20 < Bull_[UK]> true, you need an easy way to detect ww directories, maybe a button in configuration 'use ww paths' 16:20 < Bull_[UK]> or do that by default if ww is detected 16:41 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 16:52 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 16:52 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 16:55 >> #punt JOIN TylerM (n=TylerM@66.244.194.174) 17:07 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 17:17 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 17:17 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 17:17 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) () 17:58 >> SignOff: nhv ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]") [#punt] 18:01 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 18:16 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 18:16 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 18:29 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 19:03 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton 19:11 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 19:20 >> #punt JOIN [2]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 19:27 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 19:27 >> [2]adamhill is now known as adamhill 19:35 >> SignOff: [1]adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 19:57 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 20:11 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt] 20:11 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 22:06 >> SignOff: adamhill_work ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [#punt] 22:25 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194) 22:35 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 22:48 >> SignOff: adamhill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#punt] 22:48 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill 22:49 >> SignOff: nhv (Remote closed the connection) [#punt] 23:07 >> #punt JOIN nhv (n=nhv@dsl0-1.cape.com) 23:33 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away 23:51 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) --- Log closed Fri Jan 06 00:00:03 2006