--- Log opened Thu Jan 12 00:00:43 2006
00:02 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away
00:30 < TylerM> dpatton_away: yes, there is a way to do this, given a camera location (x,y,z) and target (x,y,z)
00:39 < dpatton_away> TylerM: ok, well, if you have the time one of these days, maybe you can make a VTP screenshot and tell me the 'location info'
01:07 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton
02:40 >> Bull_[UK] is now known as Bull_[Zzz]
02:49 >> #punt JOIN [1]adamhill (n=adamhill@adsl-70-136-51-172.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
03:06 >> SignOff: adamhill (Connection timed out) [#punt]
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03:33 >> dpatton is now known as dpatton_away
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04:45 >> SignOff: adamhill (Nick collision from services.) [#punt]
04:45 >> [1]adamhill is now known as adamhill
07:46 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231)
07:48 * mazop does his morning - yawn
11:16 >> mazop is now known as mazop_away
12:27 >> mazop_away is now known as mazop
13:44 < TheBean> mashi -
13:44 < TheBean> what's up with mashiharu.com?
13:50 < mazop> i guess its frozen - norway is a cold country ;)
15:09 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton
15:40 >> SignOff: adamhill_work ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") [#punt]
15:44 * mazop ....now its thawed ;)
15:46 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194)
15:46 * mazop hmmm ... down again ... strange
15:54 < TylerM> dpatton: preparing screenshot for you
15:55 < dpatton> TylerM: ok :-)
15:57 < TylerM> http://maps.timberline.ca/outgoing/vtp/bug3.jpg
15:58 < TylerM> -116.875915564656,50.714453587178,6123.66
15:58 < TylerM> -116.875791575467,50.714472670556,6119.32
15:58 < TylerM> point1 is camera location, point2 is target (I think!)
16:05 < dpatton> TylerM: any info re the camera altitude, and the heading of the view?
16:06 < TylerM> not precisely, no.
16:06 < TylerM> you'll have to compute the delta between the points :)
16:08 < TylerM> I'm sure there is programmatically, but not in the default UI
16:09 < dpatton> what is 6119.32 for target? Altitude?
16:10 < mazop> dave: any success on 'dstile-win32' ?
16:10 < dpatton> I just want to see if I can get a similar view in Punt. In Punt you can save 'the view' as a shortcut, so it can easily be reproduced - can you do something similar with VTP?
16:12 < dpatton> mazop: sort of - I ran it here yesterday, and it worked, but Nowak has it producing tiles in his "new and improved" directory/file naming structure, not in WW-format cache directory/file naming structure
16:12 < mazop> dave: http://www.twobeds.com/upload/userfiles/tisham/dstileww.zip
16:13 < dpatton> I'll have to talk to FrankW to see if he will make me another exe, based on what_nick's version - or better yet, maybe I can find out what I need to be able to compile it here
16:13 < mazop> ....but needs to get compiled for win ;)
16:15 < dpatton> I can compile things here(e.g. gettext), but I've never tried compiling anything that uses GDAL, and when frank did it, he said to make sure to use it with FWTools 1.0.0a8, so I suspect there are some particular requirements that have to be met
16:15 * mazop nods
16:16 < dpatton> Frank also made me tilepack.exe, but I haven't tried it yet - and I don't know how I would know whether it did what it's supposed to do
16:20 < dpatton> there are a couple of GDAL-related issues I have to sort out with how I'm building my mosaic TIFF that I'm testing dstile against - one to do with georeferencing, the other to do with color
16:23 < dpatton> also, dstile needs a --version switch, to make it easy to know which version you are using, because there are already at least 3 versions
16:33 < mazop> and dave, i was chanting and chanting ;) .... but there is still an ugly bug in last CVS .....
16:33 < mazop> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
16:33 < mazop> at Punt.MainApplication.GetRenderableObjectListFromLayerSet(World curWorld, LayerSet layerSet, String layerSetFile) in D:\WW_CVS_ROOT\PUNTcvs\Punt\Punt\Punt.cs:line 3420
16:33 < mazop> at Punt.MainApplication.OpenWorld(WorldInfo worldConfig, Boolean switchWorlds) in D:\WW_CVS_ROOT\PUNTcvs\Punt\Punt\Punt.cs:line 3071
16:34 < dpatton> can't be my fault - mashi has done checkins since my last changes ;-)
16:34 < mazop> ...if you try loading a XML that holds either or tags for connecting to WMS
16:35 < mazop> ok.... so, mashi ... this was for you ;)
16:35 < dpatton> ok - can you email me the example XML please?
16:36 < adamhill_work> dpatton: it will create 1 .tpk file per top level directory that 'dstile' makes
16:36 < mazop> you can take fe. "OneEarth" (WMS issue) and any "ImageLayer" addon...like 'InternetUsers' ....
16:37 < adamhill_work> dpatton: what_nick changed his to have a switch for WW mode versus Native mode
16:40 < dpatton> adamhill_work: yes, I know that what_nick added a new switch for "WW cache mode"
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16:42 < dpatton> tilepacks are of no use to me at this point(and, I suspect, are of no use to lots of people) - I need to produce the WW-format cache tiles, as part of 'working out the details' for how to best process a specific layer I have in mind, while at the same time documenting the steps to sever as a guidline for other people wanting to use dstile
16:43 >> #punt JOIN adamhill_work (n=86a3fd7e@70.84.174.194)
17:04 < TylerM> dpatton: yes, in VTP we save 'locations' that go into an XML file. I only looked at the contents of the file yesterday when you ask about it...the file only includes those two coordinate triplets for each location
17:05 < dpatton> so when you are using VTP, does it tell you things like the terrain altitude, camera altitude, the heading for the camera view, etc?
17:07 < TylerM> no heading, but altitude and position of camera is available in a settings box. Moving the cursor over the terrain shows the terrain elevation and coordinates. But still, just the x,y,z.
17:12 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@212.183.13.231) ()
17:19 < Bull_[Zzz]> dave - any luck getting a windows version of what_nicks dstile made yet?
17:22 < dpatton> Bull_[Zzz]: no, I haven't done anything about it - I first have to talk to Frank, and he's not currently available - I'd like to get to the point where I can build it here, but I have some questions for Frank first, and also, I need to get his version of the source, because I need his fix to Nowak's code, otherwise it won't run
17:23 < Bull_[Zzz]> cool :)
17:24 >> Bull_[Zzz] is now known as Bull_[UK]
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19:03 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@dsl-149-24.utaonline.at)
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19:40 < mazop> mashi here ?
19:48 < mashi> hi! afk.. back in a little while..
20:06 < mashi> back
20:06 < mashi> hi mazop!
20:06 < mazop> hi mashi
20:06 < mazop> have you read the log
20:08 < mashi> reading now
20:08 < mazop> i guess its 'something little' ... (for you i guess).... but bothersome if i cant get WMS imagery via Punt .....
20:10 < mazop> ....and its nice imagery i want to view with Punt ;) http://www.dynagis.net/wwdownload/work/temp/colorshade01.jpg
20:11 * mazop hopes mashi really reads the #punt log ..... quiet room=not much to read
20:19 < mashi> whoah! beautiful!
20:20 < mazop> ....but cant get it to view in Punt bjorn.....
20:22 * mashi looks at the source
20:59 >> dpatton_away is now known as dpatton
21:08 < mazop> hmmm...btw. anyone knows where norman is ?
21:11 < Bull_[UK]> at se I think
21:11 < Bull_[UK]> sea*
21:13 < mazop> ahhh...scanning plankton ;)
21:16 < Bull_[UK]> yup :)
21:18 < dpatton> mazop: yes, he is out at sea for, I think, a week - he left about 2 days ago(it's in the logs somewhere)
21:19 < mazop> ok...missed that ;) ... but started to miss him ;)
21:19 < dpatton> you knew he wasn't here because you didn't see him leaving and re-entering the IRC channels every few minutes? ;-)
21:19 < mazop> hehe...kind of right
21:22 < dpatton> mazop: do you use GDAL at all? And, with any software, do you ever use World Files?
21:23 < mazop> i also use GDAL but mostly i do all this WMS stuff in my GIS enviroment....
21:24 < mazop> for tiling and processing overviews also intergraphs free raster-utilities are easy to use ;)
21:26 < mazop> http://support.intergraph.com/Geospatial/Downloads/Tools.asp?ID=77&SORT=Title
21:30 < dpatton> I'm going to ask my question in #gdal, because I'm using GDAL for something, and it's not making sense(to me) how it's interpreting the world file
22:02 >> #punt PART mazop (n=mazop@dsl-149-24.utaonline.at) ()
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--- Log closed Fri Jan 13 00:00:58 2006