--- Log opened Tue Feb 07 00:00:27 2006
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05:36 * mashi yawns
05:37 < mashi> World Wind now uses reference rasterizer? Am I dreaming or is the DirectX SDK now a requirement for running WW? ;)
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06:01 < what_nick> hey mashi ...
06:01 < what_nick> hey dpatton ..
06:01 < mashi> hey what_nick!
06:02 < dpatton> hi
06:02 < mashi> hey Dave!
06:02 < what_nick> seen this ... http://savi.sourceforge.net/savi-geomview-globalstar-desktop.png
06:03 < mashi> no! cool!
06:04 < dpatton> yep
06:05 >> #punt JOIN mazop (n=mazop@mailout.gemserver.at)
06:06 < what_nick> wanna extend the satellite plugin with savi server side code and footprints as well as time setting ..
06:07 < mashi> very cool!
06:08 < mashi> morning mazop!
06:08 < mazop> hey, morning mashi - morning all ;)
06:08 < mazop> ohh....dave is also here :-D...
06:09 < dpatton> hi mazop
06:09 < mazop> feels like a 'morning meeting' ....
06:09 * mazop orders coffee :P
06:10 < adamhill> i think WW just ran on my machine without the DX SDK
06:10 < adamhill> but may it is cause I have WinFX installed....
06:11 < adamhill> *maybe
06:12 < mashi> hey adamhill!  Ok.. I'm dreaming! :)
06:13 < adamhill> i thought there was always a SW rasterizer available
06:13 * mazop will keep quiet about punt bugs till someone (dave/mashi/any-other-dev) wants to know .... and drinks coffee meanwhile .....
06:14 < dpatton> lets decide something - maybe "struts are silly" - then tomorrow Chris and the guys in #worldwind can talk about "our meeting" ;-)
06:14 < mazop> ups... was just a joke ..... punt hase NO bugs ;)
06:14 < mashi> LOL
06:15 < adamhill> silly strut hats
06:16 * mazop hmmm... likes strapse ;)
06:19 < what_nick> talked abt a solution for struts with chris ...
06:20 < what_nick> he reckons we can leave out edge pixels in tiles not in the same res adn interpolate between adjacent tiles ...
06:20 < mazop> ....and the solution is the opacity=254 thing ?
06:21 < adamhill> thats a bandaid
06:21 < adamhill> fixing it correctly is GPU intensive
06:22 < mazop> mashi: today work - or 'fun-day' ?
06:22 < adamhill> mazop: see this for an explanation - https://cis.med.ucalgary.ca/http/java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/articles/jcanyon/
06:23 < adamhill> section 3.1.2
06:23 < mazop> thanks adam: but for that i need 2 liters more coffee ... even if it would be written in german :P
06:24 < adamhill> oops, i forget the language leveling effect IRC has :)
06:24 * mazop its 7:22 am here ...
06:25 < adamhill> short answer: you get cracks, struts are cheap, easy geometric fix
06:25 < mashi> Q. Isn't Java slow?
06:25 < mashi> A. No.
06:25 < mashi> :D
06:26 < adamhill> all the easy composited Swing GUI with the JOGL version of WW is going to be annoying
06:27 * mazop even does not understand why all this JOGL/JAVA is such a big theme...related to WW i mean ....
06:28 < what_nick> adamhill: click my link http://www.apogee.com.au/webstart/worldplain.jnlp
06:28 < what_nick>  cheap shot ...
06:28 < what_nick> mazop give it a try as well :)
06:28 < mazop> i alsready did WN ... nice...
06:28 < mazop> are the clouds 'real-time' ?
06:29 < what_nick> yes same as the real-time clouds plugin by pat murris ...
06:29 < what_nick> thread runs in back ground and recomposes clouds ...
06:29 < what_nick> updates approx 3hrs ..
06:32 < mazop> nice...
06:33 < mazop> but since nobody can answer me WHY this 'JOGL/JAVA' is a big theme in WW i only can see it a nice sideeffect .....
06:35 < dpatton> it's "a big theme" in WW because somebody, somewhere, in the US government/military said to NLT "we want Java" - that's my opinion
06:35 < mazop> lol.....
06:36 < mazop> same feeling here...
06:37 < mazop> imo it would be much better and also more important to get focused on .NET / DX .....on this side there would be enough to do if you ask me ....
06:37 * mazop shuts up....and goes for a coffee....
06:40 < mashi> can the java thing run inside the browser (with no clicks)?
06:40 < what_nick> setting up cron job to get daily modis ...
06:41 < what_nick> er um??
06:41 < mashi> Microsoft are such cowards... "We know our code (.net) isn't good enough so we won't allow it to run inside the browser."
06:41 < what_nick> yes it can ...
06:41 < what_nick> if i package an applet ....
06:42 < what_nick> i have pakaged a webstart so it will run offline as well ... once i have set up a caching scheme
06:51 * mashi considers moving to java land
06:51 < mashi> I'll be back in about 9 hours.. committed a fix, hope I didn't break the world :-P
06:53 < dpatton> I'll be sleeping for most of that time, so I'll leave it to mazop to find all the bugs ;-)
06:53 < mazop> you want me to find MORE bugs dave ?
06:54 < mazop> mashi: see you in 9 hours .... and will have my bug list with me :P
06:55 < dpatton> why not - I haven't changed any Punt code for a while, so any bugs you find must be in mashi's code :-)
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15:37 < adamhill_work> mazop: DP is correct a group at NASA wants a Java version of WW and is willling to pay for it
15:37 < mashi> where's my bugs? :-P
15:39 < mazop> hehe
15:39 * mazop looks for the first 7 pages.....
15:40 < mazop> mashi: i guess i should first do a CVS update ... than checking....than reporting ;)
15:49 < mazop> adam: so one NASA group pays the other NASA group ?
15:53 < adamhill_work> correct, internal monopoly money
15:54 < mashi> hey mazop! No need for update I think.. unless you want more bugs :-P
15:54 < mashi> and maybe 1 page is enough for today?
15:56 < mazop> adam: they are stupid eh? .... when i think about all that "internal administration" with writing bills for other groups .....
15:57 < mazop> mashi: i was talking about 'PostIt' pages......dont be frightend ;) .... when i write it down on a normal sized page ....hmmm... its just a few lines ;)
15:57 < mashi> :D
16:05 < adamhill_work> i think you are correct mashi, you cannot run WW without installing the SDK, WW builds, but fails to open the reference rasterizer on my W2K box at work
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18:29 < mazop> mashi here ?
18:30 < dpatton> mazop: why don't you become a Gold sponsor for the GeoWeb 2006 conference: http://www.geoweb.org/2006/sponsorship.asp
18:30 < dpatton> the three attendees could be you, me, and mashi ;-)
18:32 < mazop> what should be we do with the booth then ? having a party? ...i am shure nhv would comme too :P
18:32 < mazop> ahh ....and its only U$ ...no Euro ... ;)
18:33 < dpatton> and you don't have to pay for airfare or hotel for me :-)
18:34 < mazop> what a GOOOOOOD offer :P
18:36 < mazop> ...and Meeting Venue looks good to me too
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18:51 < mashi> geoweb: NICE!
18:53 < mazop> so mashi. shouldnt we take the big booth ... its better for a big party i guess ...
18:56 < mashi> ;) do we even need a booth?
18:56 < mazop> for a party... me not... it was daves idea .P
18:57 < mazop> have you had some testings mashi ?
19:05 < mashi> got distracted as ususal
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21:56 < dpatton> Hi Tyler
21:58 < TylerM> hi dave
21:59 < dpatton> do you know anything about GeoWeb 2006?
22:04 < TylerM> not really
22:06 < dpatton> ok :-)
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