--- Log opened Mon Feb 05 00:00:21 2007 00:00:22 < Chade> hence unstable ;) 00:05:36 >> SignOff: fiveofoh_bowl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 00:18:33 >> #worldwind JOIN fiveofoh (n=joel@h225.net160.dhcp.spu.edu) 00:20:21 >> #worldwind JOIN alexwang (n=3acf02ce@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 00:21:31 >> SignOff: Starfury^ ("End of Line") [#worldwind] 00:22:08 < alexwang> hello,would somebody tell me where does placename set come from? 00:22:32 < fiveofoh> GeoNames, mostly 00:22:36 < fiveofoh> www.geonames.org 00:22:42 < fiveofoh> I believe 00:22:43 >> #worldwind JOIN Starfury^ (n=linux@cpc2-lich6-0-0-cust724.sol2.cable.ntl.com) 00:23:10 < alexwang> thanks 00:23:34 < fiveofoh> I think they're taken from there, but hosted on NASA servers 00:25:18 <+Nowak> http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/namefiles.htm 00:26:13 < alexwang> when I full install WW on my computer,all the placename sets are stored in \Data\Earth\Placenames 00:26:17 <+Nowak> http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/download_data.htm 00:26:18 < alexwang> right? 00:26:41 < fiveofoh> As of 1.4, placenames aren't included with the installer 00:27:39 < alexwang> Oh,thanks 00:27:56 < fiveofoh> They're downloaded via WFS 00:28:10 < alexwang> when I run 1.3.5,they are stored in \Data\Earth\Placenames 00:28:16 < fiveofoh> Yeah 00:29:49 < alexwang> ww.wpl is only used in WW? 00:31:23 < alexwang> ww.wpl is a format used only in WW,isn't it? 00:31:48 < fiveofoh> Not sure, but I've never heard of it 00:31:51 < fiveofoh> Not that that means anything 00:32:59 < alexwang> the worldwind placenameset list is stored in ww.wpl 00:33:21 < alexwang> but I dont know if it is used only in WW 00:33:32 < fiveofoh> Oh, I meant I've never heard of it outside of WW. 00:33:41 < alexwang> :) 00:33:43 <+Nowak> fiveofoh: its ww only 00:34:06 < fiveofoh> Good to know 00:39:51 >> SignOff: fiveofoh ("Leaving.") [#worldwind] 01:30:18 < what_nick> withak turn it off at high altitude 01:38:02 < withak_> what_nick: whats the best way to hide it? 01:38:21 < withak_> it tried setting the mesh to null and returning out of the render loop at >30000km 01:38:27 < withak_> but it doesn't seem to work 01:38:51 < what_nick> ok i will play with it at home 01:40:06 < withak_> oh wait, i was using the wrong altitude 01:41:46 < withak_> now it works :) 01:41:59 < withak_> it comes on approximately when the terrain first pops up 01:42:56 < withak_> 3000km, not 30000km :) 01:46:10 < withak_> going from 25x25 vertices to 50x50 seemed to cut down the artifacts a little too 01:46:41 >> #worldwind JOIN tmpvar (n=tmp@69.92.54.211) 01:47:32 <@Bull_[UK]> cool 01:54:21 >> SignOff: alexwang ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [#worldwind] 02:03:25 >> Topic change on #worldwind by T_Servo: Welcome to #worldwind | open source and standards-based, are not buzz words, they're tattooed on our soul... 02:07:33 >> #worldwind JOIN T_Servo[II] (n=TomServo@205.208.132.78) 02:11:06 < withak_> http://pneumatictu.be/FloodLevel.cs 02:11:08 < withak_> updated 02:14:11 >> SignOff: T_Servo (Nick collision from services.) [#worldwind] 02:19:24 >> SignOff: Llynix (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 02:21:50 >> #worldwind JOIN Llynix (n=Miranda@cpe-68-204-40-212.sw.res.rr.com) 02:21:53 >> Mode #worldwind "+v Llynix" by ChanServ 02:33:49 >> T_Servo[II] is now known as T_Servo 02:38:25 < T_Servo> hmm 02:39:06 < T_Servo> 1m flood level and I have a giant blue rectangle on the globe 02:39:30 < withak_> zoom in so some terrain loads 02:40:45 < T_Servo> cool, WW went into white with red X 02:41:23 < withak_> you broke it 02:41:33 < T_Servo> heh 02:42:02 < T_Servo> -0F outside 02:42:41 < withak_> turning the terrain all the way up to 20x helps too 02:44:31 < T_Servo> hmmm 02:44:43 < T_Servo> WW freezes and then goes white with the X 02:45:41 < T_Servo> using like rc3 still i think 02:45:44 < T_Servo> maybe that is it 02:48:52 >> #worldwind JOIN syb-work (n=smalcolm@gusev.publishing.uwa.edu.au) 02:49:00 >> Mode #worldwind "+v syb-work" by ChanServ 02:49:05 >> Mode #worldwind "+o syb-work" by ChanServ 02:49:08 >> Mode #worldwind "+v syb-work" by ChanServ 02:52:24 >> SignOff: Chade ("reboot ^^") [#worldwind] 02:57:12 >> SignOff: syb-work ("BitchX: a modern client for a old world") [#worldwind] 02:58:09 >> #worldwind JOIN Chade (n=chatzill@150.101.97.93) 02:59:10 < T_Servo> sleepy time 02:59:15 >> SignOff: T_Servo ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") [#worldwind] 03:13:57 >> SignOff: r0 ("Leaving") [#worldwind] 03:48:30 >> SignOff: tmpvar (Client Quit) [#worldwind] 03:55:53 >> SignOff: nhv_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 03:57:31 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 03:57:34 >> Mode #worldwind "+v nhv" by ChanServ 04:26:30 >> SignOff: Starfury^ ("End of Line") [#worldwind] 04:57:24 >> SignOff: Chade (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 05:07:54 >> #worldwind JOIN Chade (n=chatzill@150.101.97.93) 05:35:21 >> #worldwind JOIN tmpvar (n=tmp@69.92.54.211) 05:44:24 < Chade> Hmmm. 05:44:36 < Chade> Moderators may want to take a look at the most recent spammage. :/ 05:44:46 < Chade> Considering it's meant to be an all-ages forum... 05:51:25 >> SignOff: tmpvar (Client Quit) [#worldwind] 06:54:44 >> SignOff: what_nick ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") [#worldwind] 06:55:27 < Chade> Laters. 06:55:29 >> SignOff: Chade ("^^") [#worldwind] 08:11:56 >> #worldwind JOIN ctweedie (n=chris@dsl-202-72-172-93.wa.westnet.com.au) 08:12:45 >> #worldwind JOIN what_nick_ (n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/active/what-nick) 08:50:12 >> #worldwind JOIN taiji2 (n=taiji@222.35.187.240) 08:50:36 < taiji2> where can i get the source code of worldwind server? 08:51:30 < taiji2> oh,who can help me please. 08:54:37 <+adamhill> there is no special server needed 08:54:51 <+adamhill> it is all HTTP requests, like a browser 08:56:02 < taiji2> oh,adamhill, 08:56:23 < taiji2> but there should be some database behind 08:56:37 <+adamhill> Ctrl + H shows you the URLS 08:56:42 < taiji2> http://nvogre.phyast.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/nvomapserv?request=GetMap&layers=sdssimgl0,sdssimgl1,sdssimgl2,sdssimgl3&srs=EPSG:4326&width=512&height=512&bbox=-36,-18,0,18&format=image/jpeg&version=1.1.1&styles 08:56:58 <+adamhill> 90% of WW's data is pretiled 08:57:20 < taiji2> adamhill,what are these params for,can you tell me? 08:57:36 <+adamhill> so it is //xxx_yyy.jpg in a directory 08:58:07 < taiji2> oh,dear adamhill ,but what are 10% for? 08:58:25 < taiji2> http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov/tile/tile.aspx?T=bmng.topo.bathy.200402&L=0&X=8&Y=4 08:58:26 < taiji2> http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov/wwelevation/wwelevation.aspx?T=srtm30plus&L=0&X=4&Y=5 08:58:49 < taiji2> and what are these params for? 08:59:01 <+adamhill> those are WMS requests - http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/docs/howto/wms_server/#how-does-a-wms-work 08:59:23 < taiji2> oh,tks,dear adamhill 09:00:04 < taiji2> what are these params for ?:http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov/tile/tile.aspx?T=bmng.topo.bathy.200402&L=0&X=8&Y=4 09:00:17 < taiji2> and http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov/wwelevation/wwelevation.aspx?T=srtm30plus&L=0&X=4&Y=5 09:00:33 < taiji2> should u tell me the meaning of each param ? 09:00:49 <+adamhill> for the L,X,Y see - http://www.ceteranet.com/nww-tile-struct.pdf 09:01:27 < taiji2> tks a lot,and what about else? 09:01:28 <+adamhill> L is the level - the resolution increases as the number gets bigger 09:01:50 <+adamhill> X and Y are the grid for that particular level 09:02:13 <+adamhill> T is an ID for what directory to pull from 09:02:15 < taiji2> T=bmng.topo.bathy.200402----------???????? 09:02:23 < taiji2> oh 09:03:16 < taiji2> what are wwelevation.aspx &tile.aspx for 09:03:36 <+adamhill> there is a complicated page at http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/Making_Layers but it might confuse you 09:03:38 < taiji2> there should be some asp.net codes 09:04:04 <+adamhill> its just something that loads the JPG and returns it via HTTP 09:04:25 <+adamhill> look for "dynamic images in ASP.NET" examples 09:04:56 < taiji2> oh,dear adamhill,are u one of the developer of worldwind?i guess you be 09:05:20 < taiji2> oh,where can i get the examples? 09:05:27 < what_nick_> heya adamhill 09:05:29 < what_nick_> :) 09:05:36 < what_nick_> good luck dealing with this :) 09:05:40 <+adamhill> not working for NASA just someone in the community 09:05:52 < roeles> what_nick_: :)) 09:06:09 < taiji2> all,every one,:) 09:07:53 <+adamhill> here is an example that will show you how to stream JPG's - http://blogs.msdn.com/jrule/archive/2004/08/16/215393.aspx 09:08:03 <+adamhill> or any other bitmap 09:09:00 <+adamhill> just google that phrase and you will get plenty of examples 09:09:37 < taiji2> tks adamhill for your help.great! 09:10:48 <+adamhill> WW also supports WMS directly too, so you can set up Mapserver or Geoserver and load them with data, but it will be much slower than pretiled data 09:11:53 < taiji2> how do you split the image? 09:12:08 < taiji2> with what tools? 09:12:22 <+adamhill> a tool called GDAL 09:13:16 <+adamhill> or a tool that someone else wrote called 'dstile', there is a link in the Wiki page on Making Layers 09:15:18 < taiji2> oh,tks adamhill,my email is taijiyuyan@yahoo.com.cn,may i know your email?glad to meet you. 09:15:59 <+adamhill> i am on the wiki, find me, it will make you explore it :) 09:16:51 <+adamhill> also check out the forums, lots of useful info 09:16:54 < taiji2> should i wish to make friends with you ? feel so happy 09:17:54 < taiji2> tks adamhill 09:18:12 <+adamhill> devs are always here 09:18:24 < what_nick_> those who dont have a life at least 09:18:27 < what_nick_> like me 09:18:46 * what_nick_ goes to blog about cooking and TV Tuner card 09:18:56 <+adamhill> there is also a #gdal, #geoserver and a #mapserver channel for questions about those apps 09:19:24 < taiji2> oh,ok,adamhill 09:20:43 < taiji2> oh,where should i download dstile from?i tried http://download.worldwindcentral.com/dstile-0.2.tar.gz,but 404 error occured 09:24:44 <+adamhill> dunno, check back later all the links I have are broke too 09:28:30 < taiji2> ok,wish to get dstile earlier,tks 09:55:16 < Ghostwolf> how's that porting coming along? 09:55:17 <+nhv> [03:58] http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov/wwelevation/wwelevation.aspx?T=srtm30plus&L=0&X=4&Y=5 09:55:19 <+nhv> [03:58] and what are these params for? 09:55:20 <+nhv> [03:59] those are WMS requests - http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/docs/howto/wms_server/#how-does-a-wms-work 09:55:22 <+nhv> Those aren't WMS REQUESTS those are WW Tile REQUESTS 09:55:23 <+nhv> similar but not the same things 09:56:30 <+adamhill> I was talking about the very very first one to nvogre.phyast 09:57:00 <+adamhill> i explained the TLXY stuff or at leasr supplied pointers 09:57:03 <+nhv> hehe yes that is a WMS request 09:58:00 <+adamhill> hey, now that you are around, are any other OSGEO projects thinking about mentoring Summer of Code projects? 09:58:44 <+adamhill> it might be some cool PR if OSGEO gets 50 SOC projects :) 10:00:18 < taiji2> oh,nhv,adamhill,in the src code ,where calculate the param of L,T,X,Y? 10:00:42 < taiji2> for tile requests 10:00:45 <+adamhill> look at the tile struct.pdf 10:01:23 < taiji2> oh,i have a try 10:02:41 < taiji2> then what about wwelevation's param? 10:05:14 <+adamhill> same thing 10:06:10 <+adamhill> elevation is just a bitmap where pixels map to a height 10:16:20 < taiji2> when the ww starts,it request http://worldwindxml.worldwindcentral.com/index-1.3.4.xml 10:16:20 < taiji2> http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov/layerConfig/marsimages.xml 10:16:41 < taiji2> when the ww starts,it request http://worldwindxml.worldwindcentral.com/index-1.3.4.xml,what 's this file for? 10:17:33 <+adamhill> that is a configuration file that describes the layers you can pick from in Layer Manager 10:18:02 <+adamhill> there are various XML files in the /Config directory 10:18:33 < taiji2> oh,y,i opened it then i know 10:21:47 < taiji2> there are many code generated with xmlspy 2005,how can i get those origin codes? 10:53:00 < what_nick_> ping withak_ 10:58:19 >> #worldwind JOIN r0 (n=rnbc@netc-gw.telecel.pt) 11:13:14 >> SignOff: taiji2 () [#worldwind] 11:52:55 >> #worldwind JOIN m_k (i=mkursa@dsi19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 12:12:55 >> #worldwind JOIN maurizioSA (i=mapmanSA@wbs-41-208-201-94.wbs.co.za) 12:19:51 >> SignOff: maurizioZA (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 12:20:32 >> SignOff: nelson (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 12:20:49 >> #worldwind JOIN nelson (n=nelson@rrcs-72-43-17-50.nys.biz.rr.com) 12:33:17 >> #worldwind JOIN mazop (n=d4b70de7@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 12:33:47 < mazop> maurizioSA: are you awake ? 12:36:36 < mazop> maurizio : ping 12:38:26 >> #worldwind PART mazop (n=d4b70de7@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) () 13:25:16 >> SignOff: vcxx_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 13:27:35 >> #worldwind JOIN T_Servo_Work (i=earthiss@burns.dreamhost.com) 13:35:59 < withak_> ping what_nick_ 13:36:03 < withak_> back 13:36:23 < what_nick_> i have been playing with ur mesh 13:36:40 < what_nick_> idea is to add the wavy effect and fix the z-buffer 13:36:56 < withak_> cool :) 13:37:00 < what_nick_> the shaders killed it so i am giving it a break ... 13:37:13 < withak_> shaders don't work for me anyway 13:37:21 < what_nick_> and i am getting distracted by my TV Card 13:37:35 < what_nick_> pausing tv and swapping channels is so much fun 13:37:59 < what_nick_> ya i know 13:38:07 < roeles> pausing? 13:38:08 < what_nick_> i will try to simplify the shader 13:38:25 < what_nick_> ya pause time shift jump back .. 13:38:45 < what_nick_> buffer up the program watch something else and come back to it 13:39:13 < roeles> it receives multiple channels at once? 13:39:27 < withak_> sounds like tivo 13:40:09 < roeles> that reminds me, I've got to get IPtv working here again :) 13:44:25 >> #worldwind JOIN SpItHash (n=spit@unaffiliated/spithash) 13:45:29 < what_nick_> ya 13:45:33 < what_nick_> it is fun :) 13:54:20 <+nhv> whee ! http://serv-asu.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html 13:58:34 < withak_> that's a very big screen 14:01:32 < what_nick_> lotsa 64bit machines 14:05:14 <+nhv> I think this is just one machine 14:05:40 <+nhv> I will be visiting them in a couple of weeks and no better 14:05:45 <+nhv> know better 14:07:08 < T_Servo_Work> http://www.flickr.com/photos/czimmerman/tags/dakotasnow/ 14:07:19 < T_Servo_Work> that... is just a "little bit" of snow 14:07:36 < withak_> C Zimmerman doesn't have any photos tagged with dakotasnow 14:09:08 < T_Servo_Work> .0 14:09:10 < T_Servo_Work> o.0 14:09:35 < withak_> there they are 14:10:04 < T_Servo_Work> strange 14:11:03 < T_Servo_Work> the worst I have been though is 8' snow drifts... these look ~ 20' 14:14:24 >> #worldwind JOIN LOLO (n=d4661c0a@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 14:14:54 >> SignOff: withak_ ("*sploosh*") [#worldwind] 14:16:43 < LOLO> does ka-map work dierctly with a mapserver? 14:19:54 >> SignOff: LOLO ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [#worldwind] 15:16:46 >> #worldwind JOIN withak (n=ejnewman@vpn82-7e-92-67.near.uiuc.edu) 15:25:55 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv_ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 15:35:15 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 15:41:30 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv__ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 15:41:51 >> nhv__ is now known as nhv 15:49:59 >> SignOff: nhv_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 15:51:26 >> #worldwind JOIN zine (n=29c9ca11@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 15:52:44 >> SignOff: zine (Client Quit) [#worldwind] 16:01:59 >> SignOff: Selar (Remote closed the connection) [#worldwind] 16:02:11 >> #worldwind JOIN Selar (n=hussain@wire.dsl.frii.net) 16:05:02 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 16:38:35 >> #worldwind JOIN chippy_ (n=chipp2@cpc3-leed13-0-0-cust599.leed.cable.ntl.com) 17:36:19 >> SignOff: chippy_ ("Leaving") [#worldwind] 17:36:41 >> #worldwind JOIN chippy_ (n=chipp2@cpc3-leed13-0-0-cust599.leed.cable.ntl.com) 17:40:05 >> #worldwind JOIN Morpheus972 (n=c28cf708@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 17:40:12 < Morpheus972> hi 17:40:39 < Morpheus972> is there anybody? 17:41:24 < Morpheus972> I'd like to have some information about this software... Could we zoom about 144m?? 17:45:25 < m_k> yes, but then you would see a bunch of blurred pixels (outside the US) :) 17:45:54 < withak> http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/World_Wind_FAQ#The_questions_we_get_every_day 17:50:52 < T_Servo_Work> I like to see the blur though 17:52:16 * T_Servo_Work still finds it amazing most of Michigan's schools are closed today... because it is too cold 17:54:36 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 17:54:40 >> Mode #worldwind "+v nhv" by ChanServ 18:03:09 >> #worldwind JOIN Leesleer (n=d43aaddf@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 18:04:25 < Leesleer> Hello People 18:06:08 < m_k> hi 18:06:49 < m_k> T_Servo_Work: how cold? 18:08:50 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv_ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 18:10:31 >> #worldwind JOIN Jnaneshwar (n=419101a3@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 18:18:25 >> SignOff: Jnaneshwar ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [#worldwind] 18:18:32 >> #worldwind JOIN jnaneshwar (n=419101a3@madmappers.freeearthfoundation.com) 18:19:19 >> SignOff: jnaneshwar (Client Quit) [#worldwind] 18:21:02 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 18:21:48 >> SignOff: m_k () [#worldwind] 18:23:40 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv__ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 18:24:00 >> nhv__ is now known as nhv 18:24:41 >> SignOff: ctweedie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 18:25:47 >> Mode #worldwind "+v nhv" by ChanServ 18:32:15 >> SignOff: Leesleer ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [#worldwind] 18:36:00 >> SignOff: nhv_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 18:37:09 >> #worldwind JOIN Starfury^ (n=linux@cpc2-lich6-0-0-cust724.sol2.cable.ntl.com) 18:40:43 < T_Servo_Work> m_k: was -4 when I left for work this morning 18:40:57 < T_Servo_Work> -4F that is... before any wind chill factors 18:42:32 >> SignOff: Morpheus972 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [#worldwind] 18:53:32 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv__ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 19:05:31 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 19:09:07 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv___ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 19:09:27 >> nhv___ is now known as nhv 19:19:59 >> SignOff: nhv__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 19:21:25 >> #worldwind JOIN fiveofoh (n=joel@h107.net188.dhcp.spu.edu) 19:21:29 >> SignOff: r0 ("Leaving") [#worldwind] 19:24:55 >> SignOff: T_Servo_Work ("CGI:IRC") [#worldwind] 19:35:49 >> #worldwind JOIN rghosh1 (n=rghosh@CPE00b0d0da5bb7-CM0012257043ee.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19:36:45 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv___ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 19:41:14 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 19:41:15 >> nhv___ is now known as nhv 19:48:20 < withak> i think we should all chip in a buy nhv a better internet connection 19:48:41 * nhv is travelling 19:48:52 < nhv> I apologise for the line noise 19:49:34 < roeles> np 19:50:22 < nhv> FOSS4G 2007 Call for Workshops http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2007-February/011721.html 19:51:08 >> SignOff: what_nick_ (Nick collision from services.) [#worldwind] 19:51:11 < nhv> they are looking for 3D world workshops presenters 19:51:12 >> #worldwind JOIN what_nick_ (n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/active/what-nick) 19:51:53 <+adamhill> ooh, maybe a DIY geodata workshop 19:53:32 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv___ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 19:58:41 < fiveofoh> nhv: T_Servo is planning on going if he can get reimbursed 19:58:52 < fiveofoh> There are a couple others too 19:59:27 < fiveofoh> And I'm a 4-hour car ride away, so I may show up...but it's the first three days of school :( 20:00:00 < fiveofoh> Or should I say nhv___? 20:00:39 < nhv___> maybe ________nhv_____________ the way thngs are going :-) 20:00:59 * fiveofoh thinks nhv876 would be easier 20:01:04 < nhv___> :-) 20:07:31 >> #worldwind JOIN m_k (i=mkursa@dsi19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 20:08:51 < withak> what_nick_: http://forum.worldwindcentral.com/showthread.php?t=8608 20:09:08 < withak> any idea of this guy's changes to keep models stuck to the ground will break things? 20:09:15 < withak> s/of/if 20:10:46 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 20:16:36 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv____ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 20:16:56 >> nhv____ is now known as nhv 20:21:57 < fiveofoh> btw, jp09 isn't just "this guy", he's been around 20:24:00 >> SignOff: nhv___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 20:26:06 >> SignOff: fiveofoh ("Leaving.") [#worldwind] 20:47:09 < rghosh1> can anyone here answer a question I have about PickingRayIntersection? 20:49:39 < withak> maybe 20:51:00 < rghosh1> If I calculate v1 and v2 as is done in PickingRayIntersection, can I in principle use (v1) and (v2-v1) as a position and vector with which to test a mesh for intersection? 20:51:52 < rghosh1> I've tried adding referenceCenter to v1 as well 20:58:18 < withak> not sure 20:58:32 < withak> sounds right though 20:58:51 < withak> v1 and v2 are the two "known" points that it uses now 20:59:38 < withak> if i'm picturing it correctly, you should be able to use either as the point 20:59:53 < rghosh1> yeah that's what i thought 21:00:13 < rghosh1> well at least that's some corroboration of the idea.. maybe it's just the details that are biting me 21:00:14 < rghosh1> thanks 21:05:38 < withak> you shouldn't need referenceCenter 21:06:02 < rghosh1> ah ok, wasn't sure 21:06:23 < rghosh1> tried (v1-v2) as well as (v2-v1), with and without referencecenter 21:06:28 < rghosh1> no luck yet, will keep going 21:06:48 < rghosh1> oh yeah python console is almost ready 21:07:15 < withak> :) 21:07:53 < roeles> cool 21:08:40 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 21:09:05 < rghosh1> oh yeah the opengl libraries are only used for tesselation in polygonfeature, if NetTopologySuite can provide the same function that could be less of a disincentive to add it in, since we will reduce the size of the binary distribution by not including opengl 21:10:00 < rghosh1> but if jww is replacing ww i guess it doesn't matter, is that the case or is it a parallel source base? 21:10:19 < withak> WWJ isn't replacing anything for a long time :) 21:10:29 < rghosh1> ah ok good =) 21:10:41 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv____ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 21:11:01 >> nhv____ is now known as nhv 21:47:00 * Bull_[UK] doesn't want any more dx dependencies, it will make switching to opengl harder if it ever happens 21:48:38 < m_k> but for now (next 5 years)... why not? :P 21:48:51 <@Bull_[UK]> hehe 21:49:31 * Llynix looks for something to do 21:49:31 <@Bull_[UK]> planetgs is messed up, James must be 'fixing' stuff 21:49:54 < what_nick_> using iron python for the shell ? 21:50:04 <@Bull_[UK]> a new add-ons page? 21:50:21 < what_nick_> withak: seen tiny changes to flood thingie ? 21:50:31 <@Bull_[UK]> like we planned erm years ago? 21:50:47 < what_nick_> fix the model feature if need be 21:50:49 < withak> looking now... 21:51:07 < withak> a seperate list for plugins and add-ons would be neat :) 21:52:05 <@Bull_[UK]> we were gonna have user ratings and stuff 21:52:07 <@Bull_[UK]> ;p 21:53:00 < rghosh1> what_nick: yes, ironpython python engine for the shell 21:54:15 < rghosh1> Bull_[UK]: NetTopologySuite is a port of JavaTopologySuite, independent of DX 21:54:25 < rghosh1> (in case that's what you were talking about) 21:54:26 <@Bull_[UK]> ahh cool 21:55:20 < m_k> there is a todo list http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/WWWiki:Scratchpad add a fwe points for Llynix ;) 21:55:30 <@Bull_[UK]> hehe 22:02:38 <+Llynix> I actually might rewrite hotspots soon 22:02:55 <+Llynix> I need to copy/paste about half the code for it.. so I figured while I was at it I'd fix it up 22:03:03 >> #worldwind JOIN T_Servo (n=TomServo@205.208.132.78) 22:04:07 < withak> what_nick_: i don't get anything rendering from the updated flood plugin 22:04:35 < withak> but if it's the same stuff as your water plugin then it's probably my graphics card :) 22:07:16 <@Bull_[UK]> gooo llynix 22:07:19 <@Bull_[UK]> ;) 22:09:46 >> SignOff: withak ("*sploosh*") [#worldwind] 22:16:15 >> #worldwind PART rghosh1 (n=rghosh@CPE00b0d0da5bb7-CM0012257043ee.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) () 22:20:02 < T_Servo> Terrorist A: "Hey, let's bomb the Indian parliament!" 22:20:03 < T_Servo> Terrorist B: "We can't do that" 22:20:04 < T_Servo> Terrorist A: "Why not?" 22:20:07 < T_Servo> Terrorist B: "Because the roof is blurred out" 22:20:09 < T_Servo> Terrorist A: "Crap, we'd better just nuke the whole city, then" 22:21:45 < m_k> you found that digg comment? :) 22:22:13 < T_Servo> yea 22:22:30 < T_Servo> well, wouldn't have noticed, but someone linked to one of my posts and it showed up in my log files 22:23:11 < what_nick_> withak it should be turned off over 50km 22:23:43 < m_k> T_Servo: probably me ;) 22:23:53 < what_nick_> ok i am off to work 22:24:23 < T_Servo> by emka 22:29:08 >> #worldwind JOIN withak (n=ejnewman@74-134-246-24.dhcp.insightbb.com) 22:30:21 >> SignOff: m_k () [#worldwind] 22:34:34 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv____ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 22:35:36 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 22:35:57 >> nhv____ is now known as nhv 22:36:02 >> SignOff: chippy_ ("Leaving") [#worldwind] 22:43:57 >> SignOff: what_nick_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 22:50:05 >> #worldwind JOIN Chade (n=chatzill@150.101.97.93) 22:53:17 >> #worldwind JOIN what_nick (n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/active/what-nick) 22:54:18 >> #worldwind JOIN what_nick_ (n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/active/what-nick) 22:57:53 >> #worldwind JOIN nhv____ (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-78-243-153.se.biz.rr.com) 23:00:58 >> SignOff: what_nick_ ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") [#worldwind] 23:13:10 >> #worldwind JOIN varan2 (n=varan@c-69-139-154-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 23:13:20 < varan2> wurf 23:13:52 < varan2> was just outside viewing mercury in the bitter cold 23:15:50 < withak> was there any mercury left? 23:15:58 < varan2> not much heh 23:16:04 >> SignOff: nhv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 23:16:22 <+Llynix> 61F here 23:16:25 < varan2> bah 23:16:36 < varan2> about 20f here 23:18:05 < varan2> brrr 23:20:12 >> nhv____ is now known as nhv 23:21:16 * nhv waves from 'chilly' florida 55F or so here 23:22:01 < varan2> feh 23:26:09 >> #worldwind JOIN T_Servo[II] (n=TomServo@205-208-133-91.ispnetbilling.com) 23:28:34 < Selar> T_Servo[II], did you see http://www.foss4g2007.org/workshops.html (i'm sure you did :) 23:29:43 <@Bull_[UK]> hi varan 23:30:13 <@Bull_[UK]> so nhv igrates in the winter 23:30:25 <@Bull_[UK]> +m 23:32:49 < nhv> I figured I would follow the fish, birds and butterflies this year 23:35:34 >> #worldwind JOIN r0 (n=rnbc@a81-84-142-46.cpe.netcabo.pt) 23:35:34 >> SignOff: T_Servo[II] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [#worldwind] 23:35:43 <@Bull_[UK]> :) 23:35:58 <@Bull_[UK]> they are the smart ones 23:40:25 >> SignOff: T_Servo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [#worldwind] 23:49:36 <@Bull_[UK]> http://whedonesque.com/comments/12385 23:58:56 < varan2> yeah bummer --- Log closed Tue Feb 06 00:00:22 2007